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Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.03 09:32:00 -
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Tengu is fine, loki is fine, buff the legion. |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.03 10:19:00 -
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The thing you have to remember about the tengu is that its projected maximum DPS only comes from using kinetic missiles. Switch to any other damage type and it loses about 150 dps (more around 200 if it's a HAM tengu). So despite having the luxury of damage type selection using missiles, it's pretty much stuck to one type unless it goes up against something known to have a massive and unpatchable hole.
The skill loss on death along with potential isk loss from flying a decently fit, if not sufficiently pimped tengu balances the reward of having a genuinely good PVE, and PVP boat.
Proteus i'll wait until the hybrid buffs go though. The legion though, yep buff it. Ham legion is the only sufficiently viable PVP fit that comes close to justifying the risks and costs. |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.05 20:21:00 -
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I'd love to see the proteus with a dedicated drone boat set up. |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.09 01:01:00 -
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I feel the need to add:
If you're comparing tengu PVE vs any gun ship PVE take into consideration that just about every BS rat has defender missiles. At least every other volley if not every volley is down a missile by default. |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.09 07:55:00 -
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Hungry Eyes wrote:
HML 100MB AB Tengus are beasts and can handle anything. it is a stupid, unbalanced ship. the cookie cutter setup is out and everyone's grandma is using one.
You haven't correctly identified the problem with the 100mn tengu. Even if ccp were to cut the tengu's HM range to 60km, 100mn fits would still be a problem because of the 100mn afterburner.
The proper fix is to restrict ships ability to mount larger sized prop mods. |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:11:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Shivus Tao wrote:I feel the need to add:
If you're comparing tengu PVE vs any gun ship PVE take into consideration that just about every BS rat has defender missiles. At least every other volley if not every volley is down a missile by default. Another one not understanding how radial, transversal and sign affects lasers/projectiles/hybrids. Missiles are fine, the defenders sent by rats are nothing compared to transversal/radial effects on other weapon system. If you really complain about that...omg.
I've flown gun ships in level 4's, and ratted with them just as much as I've used missiles. Radial and transversal velocity is easily overcome by fitting a web, and turning the ship to match the direction of the target. Also those gun ships typically have at least 5 light drones to deal with the small fast targets while the big guns fire on the big easy to hit targets.
Also, I wasn't complaining bro, so your post just makes you look silly. I guess that's what I get from expecting people to maintain context over an 8 page thread with today's 4 minute attention span.
It was simply an effort to further document what missile ships like the tengu have against them to bring some knowledge to all these EFT warriors crying NERF NERF when they don't have a clue, or refuse to have a clue lest their view of things be challenged. |
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